Quadro vs Geforce GTX
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Hello:

Will be getting a system with Quadro 2000; so started looking at GPGPU.

Nvidia provides a link comparing Quadro cards for GPGPU. I cannot find a similar link for GTX cards nor can I find any comparison of Quadro and GTX for GPGPU.

Two questions.

1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.

2. Can one mix Quadro and GTX cards? Only one will be used to drive monitors. The other is for computing. Main reason: GTX is cheaper than Quadro. What does one give up with GTX?

Thanks
Hello:



Will be getting a system with Quadro 2000; so started looking at GPGPU.



Nvidia provides a link comparing Quadro cards for GPGPU. I cannot find a similar link for GTX cards nor can I find any comparison of Quadro and GTX for GPGPU.



Two questions.



1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.



2. Can one mix Quadro and GTX cards? Only one will be used to drive monitors. The other is for computing. Main reason: GTX is cheaper than Quadro. What does one give up with GTX?



Thanks

#1
Posted 11/21/2010 12:39 PM   
Hello:

Will be getting a system with Quadro 2000; so started looking at GPGPU.

Nvidia provides a link comparing Quadro cards for GPGPU. I cannot find a similar link for GTX cards nor can I find any comparison of Quadro and GTX for GPGPU.

Two questions.

1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.

2. Can one mix Quadro and GTX cards? Only one will be used to drive monitors. The other is for computing. Main reason: GTX is cheaper than Quadro. What does one give up with GTX?

Thanks
Hello:



Will be getting a system with Quadro 2000; so started looking at GPGPU.



Nvidia provides a link comparing Quadro cards for GPGPU. I cannot find a similar link for GTX cards nor can I find any comparison of Quadro and GTX for GPGPU.



Two questions.



1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.



2. Can one mix Quadro and GTX cards? Only one will be used to drive monitors. The other is for computing. Main reason: GTX is cheaper than Quadro. What does one give up with GTX?



Thanks

#2
Posted 11/21/2010 12:39 PM   
Hi

In terms of GPGPU you give up full double precision performance which is available for the most expensive Quadros, and memory size on the same cards. Otherwise GTX and Quadro use the same chip. So if two cards have the same amount of cores they should be roughly same speed (GeForce are probably a bit faster due to higher clock frequencies). Btw to have the equivalent of a GTX470 you need to buy the Quadro 6000. There is no GTX480/GTX580 equivalent at the quadro side. Your quadro 2000 is equivalent to the GTS450.

You can have both quadro and GeForce cards in one PC.

Cheers
Ceearem
Hi



In terms of GPGPU you give up full double precision performance which is available for the most expensive Quadros, and memory size on the same cards. Otherwise GTX and Quadro use the same chip. So if two cards have the same amount of cores they should be roughly same speed (GeForce are probably a bit faster due to higher clock frequencies). Btw to have the equivalent of a GTX470 you need to buy the Quadro 6000. There is no GTX480/GTX580 equivalent at the quadro side. Your quadro 2000 is equivalent to the GTS450.



You can have both quadro and GeForce cards in one PC.



Cheers

Ceearem

#3
Posted 11/21/2010 01:55 PM   
Hi

In terms of GPGPU you give up full double precision performance which is available for the most expensive Quadros, and memory size on the same cards. Otherwise GTX and Quadro use the same chip. So if two cards have the same amount of cores they should be roughly same speed (GeForce are probably a bit faster due to higher clock frequencies). Btw to have the equivalent of a GTX470 you need to buy the Quadro 6000. There is no GTX480/GTX580 equivalent at the quadro side. Your quadro 2000 is equivalent to the GTS450.

You can have both quadro and GeForce cards in one PC.

Cheers
Ceearem
Hi



In terms of GPGPU you give up full double precision performance which is available for the most expensive Quadros, and memory size on the same cards. Otherwise GTX and Quadro use the same chip. So if two cards have the same amount of cores they should be roughly same speed (GeForce are probably a bit faster due to higher clock frequencies). Btw to have the equivalent of a GTX470 you need to buy the Quadro 6000. There is no GTX480/GTX580 equivalent at the quadro side. Your quadro 2000 is equivalent to the GTS450.



You can have both quadro and GeForce cards in one PC.



Cheers

Ceearem

#4
Posted 11/21/2010 01:55 PM   
[quote name='jakesmith' date='21 November 2010 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1290343183' post='1149562']
1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.
[/quote]

If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055

It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.
[quote name='jakesmith' date='21 November 2010 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1290343183' post='1149562']

1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.





If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055



It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.

#5
Posted 11/21/2010 02:18 PM   
[quote name='jakesmith' date='21 November 2010 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1290343183' post='1149562']
1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.
[/quote]

If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055

It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.
[quote name='jakesmith' date='21 November 2010 - 06:39 AM' timestamp='1290343183' post='1149562']

1. What are the differences between Quadro and GTX for GPGPU? Only numerical work; do not care about graphics.





If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055



It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.

#6
Posted 11/21/2010 02:18 PM   
Thanks.

After posting the query, I found this link.[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units"]Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units[/url]. This provides info on several parameters but not on the DP vs SP issue.

Do Quadro and Geforce cards support all the technologies--CUDA, OpenCL, DirectCompute?

About mixing two cards in the same PC, I was under the impression that they had to be identical. Is this only for SLI (or something similar)?
Thanks.



After posting the query, I found this link.Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units. This provides info on several parameters but not on the DP vs SP issue.



Do Quadro and Geforce cards support all the technologies--CUDA, OpenCL, DirectCompute?



About mixing two cards in the same PC, I was under the impression that they had to be identical. Is this only for SLI (or something similar)?

#7
Posted 11/21/2010 02:18 PM   
Thanks.

After posting the query, I found this link.[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Nvidia_graphics_processing_units"]Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units[/url]. This provides info on several parameters but not on the DP vs SP issue.

Do Quadro and Geforce cards support all the technologies--CUDA, OpenCL, DirectCompute?

About mixing two cards in the same PC, I was under the impression that they had to be identical. Is this only for SLI (or something similar)?
Thanks.



After posting the query, I found this link.Comparison of Nvidia graphics processing units. This provides info on several parameters but not on the DP vs SP issue.



Do Quadro and Geforce cards support all the technologies--CUDA, OpenCL, DirectCompute?



About mixing two cards in the same PC, I was under the impression that they had to be identical. Is this only for SLI (or something similar)?

#8
Posted 11/21/2010 02:18 PM   
Jup for SLI you shoiuld have two identical cards. But SLI has nothing to do with CUDA, its for graphics only.
Jup for SLI you shoiuld have two identical cards. But SLI has nothing to do with CUDA, its for graphics only.

#9
Posted 11/21/2010 03:14 PM   
Jup for SLI you shoiuld have two identical cards. But SLI has nothing to do with CUDA, its for graphics only.
Jup for SLI you shoiuld have two identical cards. But SLI has nothing to do with CUDA, its for graphics only.

#10
Posted 11/21/2010 03:14 PM   
I don't know about the quadro card's but the gtx460 as reported by GPU-Z support's OpenCL,Cuda,Physx,and DirectCompute 5.0.

And to try to further clarify mixing two different gpu's in the same system the best result's are obtained when you use gpu's
from the same or close to the same release period.
I don't know about the quadro card's but the gtx460 as reported by GPU-Z support's OpenCL,Cuda,Physx,and DirectCompute 5.0.



And to try to further clarify mixing two different gpu's in the same system the best result's are obtained when you use gpu's

from the same or close to the same release period.

#11
Posted 11/21/2010 04:01 PM   
I don't know about the quadro card's but the gtx460 as reported by GPU-Z support's OpenCL,Cuda,Physx,and DirectCompute 5.0.

And to try to further clarify mixing two different gpu's in the same system the best result's are obtained when you use gpu's
from the same or close to the same release period.
I don't know about the quadro card's but the gtx460 as reported by GPU-Z support's OpenCL,Cuda,Physx,and DirectCompute 5.0.



And to try to further clarify mixing two different gpu's in the same system the best result's are obtained when you use gpu's

from the same or close to the same release period.

#12
Posted 11/21/2010 04:01 PM   
Thanks guys.

The idea is to use one for driving the display and the second for GPGPU.
GTX 580 seems to consume a lot of power--more than the 2 cpus and the Quadro 2000 put together.
Thanks guys.



The idea is to use one for driving the display and the second for GPGPU.

GTX 580 seems to consume a lot of power--more than the 2 cpus and the Quadro 2000 put together.

#13
Posted 11/21/2010 04:28 PM   
Thanks guys.

The idea is to use one for driving the display and the second for GPGPU.
GTX 580 seems to consume a lot of power--more than the 2 cpus and the Quadro 2000 put together.
Thanks guys.



The idea is to use one for driving the display and the second for GPGPU.

GTX 580 seems to consume a lot of power--more than the 2 cpus and the Quadro 2000 put together.

#14
Posted 11/21/2010 04:28 PM   
[quote name='seibert' date='21 November 2010 - 06:18 AM' timestamp='1290349100' post='1149579']
If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055

It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.
[/quote]

I wondered about that too.. I had to ask in that thread!
GF100 Quadro features are a superset of GF100 Tesla's. You get all the Tesla features (2xDMA, DP speed, ECC) plus SLI and faster workstation OpenGL (especially in AutoCAD and similar.)
[quote name='seibert' date='21 November 2010 - 06:18 AM' timestamp='1290349100' post='1149579']

If you are talking about Fermi-series, this post lists the differences between Tesla and GeForce:



http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=165055



It's not clear if Quadro has all of Tesla's extra features, or just some of them. (The extra DMA engine was confirmed in another thread to be in the compute capability 2.0 Quadro cards. Not sure about ECC.) Given that Tesla cards now can run a display, I would hope the Quadro would have all the Tesla features.





I wondered about that too.. I had to ask in that thread!

GF100 Quadro features are a superset of GF100 Tesla's. You get all the Tesla features (2xDMA, DP speed, ECC) plus SLI and faster workstation OpenGL (especially in AutoCAD and similar.)

#15
Posted 11/21/2010 05:16 PM   
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